This one goes back a year or so, a rocky period for Team BIGDoer. At that time Connie was in the midst of her Cancer battle that would eventually have her losing an entire breast. With that we we’re limited in what we could do outside. But even with pain and irritation a constant companion, she insisted we get out and walk. In town, just in case there was a problem. With the first operation mere weeks before and the next to soon to follow, bandaged up and hurting, we took to the streets at her insistence. Brave and strong is that girl.
In this “urban trek” we take in the best parts of 17th Avenue Southeast, aka “International Avenue” account all the Asian stores and eateries that call it home. Collectively the whole area is known as Forest Lawn even if some sections actually have other names officially. Up until the early 1960s it was a town unto itself before being annexed by Calgary. In some ways, it still has the feel of a place removed from the big city, even if surrounded by it. But it’s all vanishing fast. Till then, it retain that edgy, unrefined vibe and does so unapologetically…but could the gentrification monster be lurking?
Urban Trek: 17th Ave SE – taking in “International Avenue”. Going interesting places with Chris & Connie.
Start on 14th Ave SE, just east of 65th St. There’s a green space here with lots of free on-street parking. Backtrack to 65th, and head a block or two south to 17th Ave. On both sides it’s two large trailer parks, Mountview (maybe on a clear day if standing atop a cell tower) and Penbrooke Heritage Estates, now Calgary Village (who has an AWEFUL reputation online). Mobile Home Parks like this get zero respect from the general public who seen them as havens for petty criminals, drug dealers and users and others of low socioeconomic status. So “trailer trash”. Even if relatively tidy and orderly, as these appear, the stereotype remains. In fact, a lot of tenants are old folks on limited income who lead quiet lives. Google calls the neighbourhood here Red Carpet.
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Homes for under $30k? How’s that even possible? Here, in a town where an all out hovel, say like “BIGDoer Estates” can be had from nothing short of a king’s ransom? Even the cheapest single family dwellings in Calgary go for hundreds and hundreds of thousands. Here, a refrigerator box under a bridge requires a mortgage. But yet, that’s what the sign says. Cool vintage motorhome spotted!
Now on 17th Ave head west – it’ll be sidewalks the whole rest of the way Soon in cross the train tracks, and later 52nd Street, where things get a little more interesting. Along the way, a place called “chopstix” whose symbol includes a knife and fork but not its namesake eating utensil. Huh?
Pass Pho place after Pho place, stores of all manner, used car lots and so on. All around it’s BRT (Bus Rapid Transit) construction. They’re putting in a centre lane only for buses, that will allow them to leapfrog ahead of other traffic. This has since opened and I guess shaves a lot of time off a trip. Further, it’s old school Chinese Food places, one after another, all right out of the 1970s. Chinese and Western Food, as they all used say. Mmmm, red sauce, that sweet sticky nectar of the Gods.
What’s that? A real honest to goodness mom & pop computer store! And he were thought them extinct. Now it’s pawn shops (camera gear!) and cheque cashing places. Signs of the times. Side streets hold treasures (old cars). Here it’s a 1967 Oldsmobile 98 luxury land yacht that looks roadworthy even if it’s showing its age. What a beast! And there a 1978 Chrysler Cordoba. In our best Montalban voice…”with soft and rich Corinthian Leather”. V8 baby! Cheap fuel for all! Cars today feel so austere in comparison.
At the Forest Lawn Shopping Centre, loop back to the south side of 17th. Vacant houses on 28th St SE, suggest some redevelopment coming. So goes it. Heading east now, it’s more Asian shops and such. The Hong Kong Supermarket is the most chaotic store on the planet in regards to layout. There’s little order to the place with stuff pilled here and there in seemly in a random fashion, and it’s often quite busy. And it’s fabulous. When we shop there, we’re usually the only non-Asians.
Chicken on the Way is a Calgary go-to since like forever and makes KFC look like a healthy option. And this one is housed in an old grocery store belonging to a firm that also similarly was (once) a Calgary Institution. See: Loaf & Jug.
More Pho places, pawn shops, weed-dispensaries and vape stores. Not shortage of places to eat along here. With a logo looking right out of the 1960s, Paradise Lanes advertises “Punk Rock Bowling”. Now there’s an event we would have loved to attend if not for our crazy schedule. And there’s the old mid-1960s era sign for Four Seas Restaurant, all that’s left of the business that once stood here. It displays the “wonton font” which back then graced nearly every Chinese eatery, but today is said to be insensitive to the culture. How about that crazy retro zig-zag roof line!
More construction. Chicago’s Pub & Grill has Karokee! Looks like a place one might find Patrick Swayze’s Dalton character working. Who’s with us in going in? There appears to be an apartment above. Wonder what it’s like living above a bar? Not much peace and quiet we suspect. While mostly it’s business strips along here there’s one small section of 17th (well a side street beside that parallels) has a few houses. A block east, memories of the world’s crappiest trailer park, now a strip mall. This one was a “Sunnyvale” stereotype, famous city wide as the s*******t place to live ever.
More this and that. If we see an independent grocery store, so no chains, we stop and buy lotto. It’s a thing. And as usual we came away with hopes and dream dashed. There we were, angry and despondent at the Bake & Shake! One day though…
Little Saigon Centre mimics the look of the Ben Thanh Market in Ho Chi Minh City (formerly Saigon) Vietnam. In spite of the change, done in the mid-1970s with the end of the Vietnam War, many still refer to the city by its old name. Especially those who loathed the government who came to power after hostilities.
Ahh, the Town & County, the T’n’C, perhaps the last old school hotel in town, retaining that as built early 1970s vibe. By Calgary standards, it’s from another time. Plain and simple a dive, it perhaps holds title as the most notorious in all the city. A look online speaks of shootings, bedbugs, spent condoms and one star review after one star review. But hey, it’s likely the cheapest in town, so you do get what you pay for. They used to have a strip bar here, but you already guessed that. All the classy joints have peelers.
We love dive accommodations*, and often stay at these budget places, but even we might give it a wide berth. It seems popular with truckers. All those cell towers on the roof!
*Dated and worn is fine but clean and tidy a must.
Continue on, it’s more strip malls, some industrial stuff by the tracks and soon, you’re back where you started. Along here, to the south, the gate that is the last remains of the Corral Four Drive In which closed decades ago. There’s a scarcity of little fibreglass trailers in the off season, so a plain old Trillium, the most common of them all, even brings some excitement as we pass. It’s not a Boler, but will do.
And there you go, a tour of neighbourhood that some might call unpretty. To us, it’s something more. We love places like this with zero pretension and a raw honesty. No heirs, but things cracked and worn and in need of paint, no putting on airs, a beautiful imperfection that’s real. Hope you enjoyed it.
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Date of adventure: September, 2019. Location: Calgary, AB. Distance: 9km out and back. Height gain maximum: 0m. Height gain cumulative: 0m. NOTE: all distances and heights are approximate. Technical stuff and notes: You can’t resist the food options!
this is a great place with many community events. like all things on 17 ave this is a fabulous cultural gem in our city. don’t let rumours freak you out. it is simply a working class area. all sorts of wonderful people and i rarely go ANYwhere else for restaurants anymore it is so fabulous here. ask me about the best southern BBQ in Calgary ! a block from here ….
My husband went to the clothing store to the east of the Paradise Lanes to get his school clothes. Hysam’s was the place for GWG’s and later would ride his bike into town with his buddy Bradley Sinclair and go to the used book store for comics and maybe a lane or two at the”Paradise”. His brother’s generation used to call Forest Lawn “Dog Patch” from ‘Lil Abner back in the glass jug A&W days when you could get a 7 patty Animal burger.
I don’t think I’ve ever eaten Chicken on the Way sober. The 14th St. location was on my walk home from the Kensington Pub. I did not know there was another location. Actually, I have had CoW sober. Corn fritters were 3 for a dime when I was a kid.
I think they only had the Kensington outlet until fairly recently. The Forest Lawn one can’t be more than a decade or so old. Quite honestly I love the stuff, but my heart thinks otherwise. Three for a dime? You’re dating yourself there…
I lived and worked in that neighbourhood for a number of years after I moved to Calgary in 1983. Chicken on The Way was Seven Star Grocery at the time and was owned by a very nice Chinese fellow named Peter. Times were a bit tough then so he would extend us a moderate amount of credit and we always made sure that we paid him as soon as we were able. Later on on, we may have tipped a few beers and other libations at the T & C. It actually had three different bars in it at one point in time, Porky’s, the heavy metal bar by night and stripper bar by day, The County Line which at one time was a good rock and roll bar (2 bands during Stampede week) and Bazooka Joe’s that was just off the main lobby featuring recorded music. It was a happening place about 30 years ago.
Cool memories! I remember the Chicken on the Way place when it was a Loaf & Jug. Nice of that fellow to extend credit. We similarly had an arrangement like that with a grocer when we were starting out. It saved us from starving. The T&C…what can I say about it?
I weep for the Cordoba – my most favorite vehicle with respect to look and comfort – had several & would have purchased this one in a heartbeat by the look of it. Neat tour of the area.
It seems to have a bit of a saggy bottom, but otherwise looks in reasonable shape. That it’s on the road, suggests it drives. So many memories of driving old boats like that.
This central Alberta racetrack was never a commercial operation but instead just a fun place for car enthusiasts in the area to get together. Early '70s or thereabouts and it only lasted a few years. Even thought it's been abandoned for that long, there is no doubt what was here.
You know we like the the obscure stuff and this one fits the bill perfectly. Found by accident while backroad cruising and the history comes thanks to local car guy Mike.
Exploring history with Off the Beaten Path with Chris & Connie. Photo: 2022. Posted by Connie.
On top of little Myrtle Mountain in the Kimberley (BC) Nature Park.
There's some good wilderness fun to be had here and nice views as you can see, but the real reason we came is mining history. The whole area near the ski hill was extensively worked over a century ago and we were looking for evidence of this. We didn't find much in the area searched, but it's a big chunk of property and we hope to return to cover more ground again soon. Of all the subjects we cover, mining related is a favourite.
Still, it was a good hike and that can't be bad. Look to the comments for more info 👇.
Exploring nature and history with Off the Beaten Path with Chris & Connie. Photo: 2022. Posted by Connie.
It's a strange curiosity in south Kananaskis, there on a hillside and we have no idea who created it. We asked around and no one's completely sure about its history. In the past it showed the Canada 100 logo from 1967 but in 2017 someone changed it to reflect the country's 150th.
That's our friend Emily from DanOCan.com having a look.
Exploring history with Off the Beaten Path with Chris & Connie. Photo: 2017. Posted by Connie.
April 13th 2024, the Beer Parlour Project visited the Viking Hotel, Viking Alberta and it too was an awesome time. There's Rob Pohl with his curious view camera and in the other photo Chris is seen interviewing local character Doug.
The Viking dates back to the 1930s and replaced a hotel on this same lot, which had earlier burned down.
Incidentally April 13th is also Chris and my 28th anniversary. Chris said he forgot this when scheduling this but that's fine and it doesn't matter where we celebrate but that we celebrate.
Exploring history with Off the Beaten Path with Chris & Connie. Photo: 2024. Posted by Connie.
April 12th 2024, the Beer Parlour Project visited the Warspite Hotel, Warspite Alberta and it was a great success. They put up our sticker and look for it if you ever drop by. This will be another chapter in what will be a multi-year adventure documenting small town hotels all over the west. We chat with owners, patrons, old timers, local characters and we learn about the building too.
It's believed this one is 100 years old in 2024 and we'll confirm details during the research phase done later.
When we're done we'll have a huge collection of digital and film photos, plus voice recorded interviews for an art exhibit and a book is likely.
Exploring history with Off the Beaten Path with Chris & Connie. Photo: 2024. Posted by Connie.
This little stone house was built in the 1910s and while it's not exactly clear when last occupied, research suggests it was empty only a couple decades later. This is a dry area of the Alberta and most settlers moved out by the '30s. Trees in back were planted by the folks that lived here and there's no others around as far as the eye can see. In fact, there's nothing but natural prairie in every direction. When the word "remote" comes up, this is the place they're speaking of.
Look to the comments for more info and to see a stone smokehouse also on the property 👇
Exploring history with Off the Beaten Path with Chris & Connie. Photo: 2017. Posted by Connie.
nice work, as always.
Thank you for that!
Sawtooth roof! (Euphoric Lounge)… 😉
I like zig-zag roof better! Really though, Sawtooth is the perfect name for that style of roof. Describes it to a T.
I adore old neon signs, I wish they were still common.
They have so much character.
Walking can be so pleasing. We lived in Calgary in the late 70s, NE. Great that the bowling alley is still in operation.
It’s good for the body and soul. We have a bowling alley like this by BIGDoer HQ. Been a while since we played though…hmmm, maybe it’s time.
this is a great place with many community events. like all things on 17 ave this is a fabulous cultural gem in our city. don’t let rumours freak you out. it is simply a working class area. all sorts of wonderful people and i rarely go ANYwhere else for restaurants anymore it is so fabulous here. ask me about the best southern BBQ in Calgary ! a block from here ….
We love neighbourhoods with character. The best BBQ? You have our attention.
The Newfoundland Store used be on this block.
Oh yeah, we recall them. Was a while ago.
Awesome pictures!
Thank you muchly.
My husband went to the clothing store to the east of the Paradise Lanes to get his school clothes. Hysam’s was the place for GWG’s and later would ride his bike into town with his buddy Bradley Sinclair and go to the used book store for comics and maybe a lane or two at the”Paradise”. His brother’s generation used to call Forest Lawn “Dog Patch” from ‘Lil Abner back in the glass jug A&W days when you could get a 7 patty Animal burger.
GWGs? Wow, haven’t thought of them in eons. Used to buy them all the time. Seven patties – that’s a heart attack waiting to happen.
I used to bowl there in a Sunday league 👍
A great pastime.
Nice they still have a bowling alley. The one we had in brockville, had closed down. It was destroyed and made into a self storage locker
There’s a similar bowling alley by BIGDoer HQ. Calgary has a couple retro alleys.
Whatever the history there are few things dearer than the ‘hood’ you knew in your youth.
The Hood! Love it.
I bowled there in the early 70’s
Cool! We’re itching to see the place for ourselves.
I don’t think I’ve ever eaten Chicken on the Way sober. The 14th St. location was on my walk home from the Kensington Pub. I did not know there was another location.
Actually, I have had CoW sober. Corn fritters were 3 for a dime when I was a kid.
I think they only had the Kensington outlet until fairly recently. The Forest Lawn one can’t be more than a decade or so old. Quite honestly I love the stuff, but my heart thinks otherwise. Three for a dime? You’re dating yourself there…
You two are so perfect together.
Bless you!
I lived and worked in that neighbourhood for a number of years after I moved to Calgary in 1983. Chicken on The Way was Seven Star Grocery at the time and was owned by a very nice Chinese fellow named Peter. Times were a bit tough then so he would extend us a moderate amount of credit and we always made sure that we paid him as soon as we were able. Later on on, we may have tipped a few beers and other libations at the T & C. It actually had three different bars in it at one point in time, Porky’s, the heavy metal bar by night and stripper bar by day, The County Line which at one time was a good rock and roll bar (2 bands during Stampede week) and Bazooka Joe’s that was just off the main lobby featuring recorded music. It was a happening place about 30 years ago.
Cool memories! I remember the Chicken on the Way place when it was a Loaf & Jug. Nice of that fellow to extend credit. We similarly had an arrangement like that with a grocer when we were starting out. It saved us from starving. The T&C…what can I say about it?
I weep for the Cordoba – my most favorite vehicle with respect to look and comfort – had several & would have purchased this one in a heartbeat by the look of it. Neat tour of the area.
It seems to have a bit of a saggy bottom, but otherwise looks in reasonable shape. That it’s on the road, suggests it drives. So many memories of driving old boats like that.