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		By: Chris Doering		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Doering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 13:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bigdoer.com/47905/short-subjects/random-pick-sleeping-giant/#comment-36032&quot;&gt;Prince Machibelli&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s not been in the news much lately (Covid stuff I suspose).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bigdoer.com/47905/short-subjects/random-pick-sleeping-giant/#comment-36032">Prince Machibelli</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not been in the news much lately (Covid stuff I suspose).</p>
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		By: Prince Machibelli		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prince Machibelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2022 01:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So there&#039;s where it&#039;s been hiding?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So there&#8217;s where it&#8217;s been hiding?</p>
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		By: Chris Doering		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Doering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 14:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bigdoer.com/47905/short-subjects/random-pick-sleeping-giant/#comment-35248&quot;&gt;Jason Sailer&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bigdoer.com/47905/short-subjects/random-pick-sleeping-giant/#comment-35248">Jason Sailer</a>.</p>
<p>Yes!</p>
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		By: Jason Sailer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Sailer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2021 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A fun day to visit the locomotive! I look forward to returning with you on future visits!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fun day to visit the locomotive! I look forward to returning with you on future visits!</p>
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		By: Chris Doering		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Doering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2021 15:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bigdoer.com/47905/short-subjects/random-pick-sleeping-giant/#comment-35227&quot;&gt;Bob Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you so much and on review see that the wording needed some serious clarification. We thought one thing and wrote down another - sigh - if you see my brain, send it home. It should have read when in service it&#039;s the largest (in terms of size) operational steamer in the country, but by the time it was typed, the context was messed up. We&#039;ve since updated the post to make it a little more clear. 

Still, what you shared was an enjoyable read and we appreciate you taking the time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bigdoer.com/47905/short-subjects/random-pick-sleeping-giant/#comment-35227">Bob Smith</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you so much and on review see that the wording needed some serious clarification. We thought one thing and wrote down another &#8211; sigh &#8211; if you see my brain, send it home. It should have read when in service it&#8217;s the largest (in terms of size) operational steamer in the country, but by the time it was typed, the context was messed up. We&#8217;ve since updated the post to make it a little more clear. </p>
<p>Still, what you shared was an enjoyable read and we appreciate you taking the time.</p>
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		By: Bob Smith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2021 05:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While the Mountains were the largest CN passenger locomotives to operate regularly in western Canada (CN&#039;s more famous Northerns were not used much west of Winnipeg, and were most common in southern Ontario and farther east), the CN T-4-b Santa Fe&#039;s have them beat in tractive effort. They were the most powerful CN steam locomotives to regularly operate in western Canada, but unfortunately none were preserved.

Different engines for different tasks, 6060 could do 90 mph with a good size passenger train while the 4300s were designed for slower speed heavy freight work, and by 35-40 mph their rods were a blur and the exhaust one continuous roar with no discernible chuffing (as told to me by another volunteer who used to fire them).

As preserved engines go 6060 is indeed one of the most famous, but is again beaten in weight and power by a number of other Canadian engines. Even CP&#039;s last class of Royal Hudsons weigh more, the difference being explained by CP&#039;s better track allowing higher axle loadings.

The largest and most powerful steam locomotives in Canada, and indeed in the whole British Empire were CN&#039;s T-2-a Santa Fe&#039;s (one, 4100, is preserved at the Canadian Railway Museum) and CP&#039;s Selkirks. There is some debate about which one deserves the crown as &quot;largest&quot;, as the CN 4100s produced more tractive effort but were strictly low speed engines (being designed for transfer and helper service on the grades around Toronto), while the Selkirks weighed around 40,000 lbs more and were far more versatile.

The CNRHA site has a number of scanned steam data sheets, here&#039;s the one for 6060&#039;s class:

http://www.cnrha.ca/node/704/

It&#039;s nice to see you are following 6060&#039;s story, we all look forward to the day when she will operate again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the Mountains were the largest CN passenger locomotives to operate regularly in western Canada (CN&#8217;s more famous Northerns were not used much west of Winnipeg, and were most common in southern Ontario and farther east), the CN T-4-b Santa Fe&#8217;s have them beat in tractive effort. They were the most powerful CN steam locomotives to regularly operate in western Canada, but unfortunately none were preserved.</p>
<p>Different engines for different tasks, 6060 could do 90 mph with a good size passenger train while the 4300s were designed for slower speed heavy freight work, and by 35-40 mph their rods were a blur and the exhaust one continuous roar with no discernible chuffing (as told to me by another volunteer who used to fire them).</p>
<p>As preserved engines go 6060 is indeed one of the most famous, but is again beaten in weight and power by a number of other Canadian engines. Even CP&#8217;s last class of Royal Hudsons weigh more, the difference being explained by CP&#8217;s better track allowing higher axle loadings.</p>
<p>The largest and most powerful steam locomotives in Canada, and indeed in the whole British Empire were CN&#8217;s T-2-a Santa Fe&#8217;s (one, 4100, is preserved at the Canadian Railway Museum) and CP&#8217;s Selkirks. There is some debate about which one deserves the crown as &#8220;largest&#8221;, as the CN 4100s produced more tractive effort but were strictly low speed engines (being designed for transfer and helper service on the grades around Toronto), while the Selkirks weighed around 40,000 lbs more and were far more versatile.</p>
<p>The CNRHA site has a number of scanned steam data sheets, here&#8217;s the one for 6060&#8217;s class:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnrha.ca/node/704/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cnrha.ca/node/704/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to see you are following 6060&#8217;s story, we all look forward to the day when she will operate again.</p>
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